84 responses to “ASHMI Clear Breathing with Chinese Herbs”

  1. Can ASHMI be purchased anywhere?

  2. How much of what do you take?

  3. Thanks Cody! Great article, exactly what I’d been looking for. I’m going to look into using phytocort as you suggest. I have some family members which suffer from breathing problems. Can I pm you with questions, or should I stick to comments?

  4. hello cody!
    does “phytocort” really have similar effects to cortisone? is it not too expensive longterm taken in the doses recommended?

    has anyone else other than Cody experience with it?
    i am contemplating getting it too, but would really like to hear more before!

    i would be happy for any kind of feedback!

    all the best, noah:)

  5. Dear Cody,
    thank you so much for your so thorough answer!!! i appreciate this extremely! wow! thank you!
    yes, for being healthy one is ready to spend huge amounts, i agree, i only asked cause i am already spending over 300 euros on my health monthly and i just wanted to check it out more before trying it out. thank you heaps for your advice!
    don’t worry, i wont stop taking anything else i am already taking! i am not planning to stop anything, will just try it as an additional fix!
    thank you for taking the time! in answering me so honestly! this is extremely kind of you!!!!! i am really stunned for the effort you took!
    all the very best!!!!
    noah :)

  6. roger that!
    noah :) :) :)

  7. I have tried Phytocort, taking 2 capsules made me very hyper for a long time, good thing I didn’t take 3, I tried 1 capsule which was a little better, will 1 cap twice a day have enough effect on COPD ?
    I am very sensitive to a lot of things and only weigh 98 lbs.

    Thank you in advance for your reply

  8. Kushen or sophora root can be neurotoxic to kids over a long period of time or high doeses.

  9. Jan, I understand the concern, I remember reading about some of the problems you mention. I was very glad to hear that the problems actually got somewhat fixed;

  10. Asthma Herb that Actually Helped!

    I suffer from severe asthma. Have been searching and searching for a natural replacement/alternative to the asthma medication serevent. I have been desperately wanting to lower my dependency to this very strong asthma medication. I believe I have finally found it. Phytocort is great. It took several bottles to get into my system enough that I’ve taken serevent only once a day!!!!!! I hope to be off of serevent completely in about 14 to 21 days.

    Thanks Cody, for writing about it!!!!!!!!!!

    Sandy Berman

  11. Cody, thanks for all the great articles on using non-traditional treatment options. Do you do your own research?

  12. Hello,

    My 19 month old son was diagnosed “idopathic hypoxemia” about 7 months ago (which is just a fancy way of saying he has low blood oxygen levels and they do not know why). We have done everything short of a lung biopsy (which our dr advised waiting on it since it would be a “blind test” since there are no abnormalities or specific areas to actually pin point to extract for testing). He runs about 92-100 during the day and 87-95 when asleep. We have oxygen to administer. There are times where he is PERFECTLY OK (and sleeps with out oxygen, etc) and there are times where he is not. He is only “slightly” allergic to dairy and cat hair.

    He responds very well to steroids; however, he is in the 15th % for height. He was slightly short before but has only grown 1″ in 7 months since starting the pulmicort steroid (inhaled). He likewise responds well to musinex. My doctor is not “opposed” to herbal treatments, but does NOT encourage or prescribe them. I found Phytocort after reading the Mt Sinai study online (and looked for a product that combined all the herbs together as well as investigated making my own). I found phytocort and gave 2 doses to my toddler (via dissolved in water and medicine dropper). It worked well!

    However, after 2 doses, I read that sophora flower is a neurotoxin to children and have not given him anymore. I cannot find ANYTHING showing the actual dosage studied to show toxicity levels for children. I read that blood types govern the toxic response to each herb (it was a general statement, not a specific approach to Sophora, etc).

    Ok, so my question is: does anyone give the product to their young children? If so, how much? I gave 1 pill in the morning and 1 pill in afternoon with good results. However, I am concerned about the neurotoxicity. I realize this is not a physician’s cite and am not looking for endorsement, but I am looking for experienced parents that have given this product to children, your outcome/experience and doses you use… Additionally, does anyone use the Mucolyxir (by same company) as alternative to musinex for children?

  13. can you tell me how long it should take to see some improvement from the phytocort?

    have taken 2 bottles and see no difference so far,

  14. @Karen

    I noticed immediate improvement after the 2nd day of taking the 3 capsules twice a day. My husband’s breathing got easier after a couple of days also.

  15. Karen, try the homemade version Cody recommended & usedd himself. Tha t worked for me. I bought the lingzhi mushroom and licorice root supplements separately and took them at the same time twice a day. Works for me even today.

    Please keep trying, there’s a natural supplement out there that will help you. Just dont stop looking!

  16. Cody,
    great blog!

    I’m an Acupuncturist and Chinese Herbalist in Texas. I would recommend to anyone who is seeking help for asthma to see an Acupuncturist/Herbalist. Even if a person has the same western diagnosis such as “Asthma”, we treat each patient differently based on their signs and symptoms. Meaning, we wouldn’t necessarily prescribe the same herbs to each person just because they have asthma. We break it down more than that and treat the person before us, not the disease! Some people may have more phlegm, or less phlegm, or more heat, or less, etc. Some may have a harder time inhaling than exhaling or vice versa. All these are clues to the practitioner and both the acupuncture treatment and the herbal prescription will most likely vary.
    Most acupuncturists have an herbal pharmacy with compounding abilities so that the formula for each patient is specifically geared to what’s going on to them! But it can’t hurt to bring in the information about ASHMI to your practitioner and discuss it with them!


  17. just wanted to let you know I have finally found some relief by taking N-Acetyl L-Cysteine

    I believe it has to do with a glutathione defficiency

    [Link Below Edited by Cody]

    http:// www [dot] diagnose-me [dot] com/treat/T292370.html

  18. Hello there!
    some time has passed but i have finally tried out Phytocort for my severe allergic asthma (plus rhinitis), but it has not helped me at all unfortunatley – at least not to a point where i would notice a benefit. i promised to come back and report after trying, so this is my experience. does not mean though that it can’t help others. just did not work for me,
    all the best

  19. Hello there!
    some time has passed but i have finally tried out Phytocort for my severe allergic asthma (plus rhinitis), but it has not helped me at all unfortunatley – at least not to a point where i would notice a benefit. i promised to come back and report after trying, so this is my experience. does not mean though that it can’t help others. just did not work for me,

    what helps me (i also take the conventional asthma medicine like xolair, cortisone, montelukast etc) are the herbs “Radix Gentianae, Flos Primulae cum calycibus, Herba Rumicis acetosa, Flos Sambuci and Herba Verbenae”. They are contained in “Solvopret/Sinupret”, but i buy them separately as tea herbs in the pharmacy and put them into capsules. they work very well on the sinus and also in the lungs. this is my 5 cents.
    all the best

  20. I am on medrol – 4mg, methotrexate – 20 mg, and also advair and flovent. I am believed to be either hypereosinophillic or churg-strauss. My question is would Ashmi benefit me by lowering my eosinophil count and would it be safe with the above medications mentioned?

  21. Okay Cody I will have to take a naturopath avenue for advice as my respiroligist ” suggested” i try ASHMI with hopes of bringing down my eosinphil count. He told me though, use it at my own risk and that basically he doesn’t know if it will work. So I guess I may have to talk to someone with a bit more experience with this herb. I am in desperate need of lowering my eosinphil count and reducing prednisone.

  22. I have been looking for nature replacements for predsidone, and ran across this site. I was all excited when I saw ASHMI…….however after researching the herbs I find most are mushrooms. That kinda freaked me out, because in Feb 2011 they found a 3.5 mass in my right lung that showed to be candida. So I radically changed my diet, no sugar, soy, rye, wheat, mushrooms. My question is since part of this formula is mushroom based, would it cause the candida to reappear? As I surely couldnt afford that!
    I supposedly have severe COPD,, and using inhalers, nebulizers and such, and when I get really bad and have bigger breathing problems I use presidone, so…..since you have has alot of experince with this product what would you recommend……Please I would love your help!!!

  23. I’m trying to find an herbal combination that might help with sinus allergies. Is there any anecdotal evidence that ASHMI or Phytocort helps with sinus allergies? The one herbal product I’ve found that helps is Sinupret. It seems to be a pretty good decongestant, but it’s not an antihistamine, so it doesn’t address the itchy eyes and sneezing.

    I’m a little concerned about the additional ingredient in Phytocort: Noni. Here’s what Dr. Weil says about it: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA64352

    I may try your do-it-yourself approach to ASHMI. Did you ever find a good online source for all three ingredients (other than the Phytocort formula)?



  24. hi Cody
    thank you very much :)
    i forgot to say, also butterbur helps me heaps with my allergic rhinits as well with my severe allergic asthma. it is strongly anti-allergic and anti-inflammatory. one needs to buy a standardized extract of butterbur that is free of pyrrolizidins, but it helps as well as an antihistamine without the sedating effect.
    looking forward to your upcoming article!!!
    all the best
    and thank you!!
    noah :)

  25. What is your appraisal as to how closely Phytocort matches that which was tested by Dr. Li at Mt. Sinai medical center?

  26. Hi, do you have some info concerning ongoing clinical studies of ASHMI? When we can expect the publication of results? Do you know, whether ASHMI/Phytocort is safe for children?

  27. I got asthma symptoms for the 1st time in my life along with my usualy springtime allergies, 2 years ago. I saw a allergy/pulmonologist MD (one of the best in my area of SLC, UT) and he told me this was the beginning of a long road where I’ll need stronger and stronger inhalers and other meds for asthma. That was unacceptable to me.
    I ended up using Ashmi that allergy season along with an emergency inhaler as needed.
    That season was the last time I needed the inhaler. I have been able to use ashmi now, just as any symptoms arise.
    Also, no side effects were noted with the ashmi. Additionally, my seasonal allergy symptoms are about 10% of what they used to be, but I’m not sure that’s due to the ashmi.
    The stuff does taste terrrible though. Small price to pay…

  28. Hi, I’m in the UK so had to order PhytoCort from Amazon and get it shipped over to the UK. It recommends taking 3 capsules three times daily and then reducing to 2 capsules twice daily. After taking my first 3 capsules about an hour ago I now have crazy black and white zigzag lights in the middle of my eyes! Has anyone else experienced this?

  29. Hi,

    I suffer from swollen eyelids. In a nutshell, when I was put on Prednisone the swelling decreased dramatically but returned when I went off. And, of course, I did not want to stay on that for too long since it made me gain so much weight in less than half a year.

    I know that you said this worked for your wife and her breathing but did it do anything for swelling by chance? Like, did it coincide with the results she had with Prednisone [if she took Prednisone…]

    I’m just looking for an alternative to Prednisone is all. And, I know you aren’t a doctor and whatnot. I’m just fishing for information. Thanks.

  30. I’ve been consulting a doctor for a couple years now. It’s cool.


  31. Which olive leaf extract do u get and which oreganol? Thanks, Janet

  32. Thanks for your fast response. How much of the phytocort, olive leaf and oregano do you take each day? I do take Olive leaf and have taken the Oregano oil as well, but not together, Both are excellent. My mother uses olive leaf for everything! I will keep u ;posted. thanks for sharing.

  33. Thanks so much. How long did you take the above before you noticed they worked? Did you or anyone in your family have to sometimes use a nebulizer?

    I was making my own olive leaf extract and it is excellent but then I was tested and was told that I was allergic to it, even though I have taken it for years with no side effects and olives, olive oil forever. So I think those tests are not accurate. I am taking the Olive leaf now with the Oreganol and also the Phytocort. But I am waiting for the Olive leaf that you recommended as the one I have on hand is not very strong.

    I really hope this works. I never had asthma until 2007. I believe it was caused by wearing myself down as I rehabilitated wildlife for years and then I lived in an forested area where there was black mold,it was constant cleaning , but I was always getting colds and thats when I started to get pneumonia too and when I believe the asthma took over because of my vulnerability to colds and the mold. I live in a drier area now.

    Thanks for your great info!

  34. Hi Cody,
    I am just starting a bottle of Phytocort. Do you take the capsules with food or without. What is more effective. I found no information on this and several calls I made to sellers were answered with, ask a Doctor. If you are privy to this information I would be very thankful for an answer.

  35. Thank you for an interesting article with lots of followup comments.

    Vasant Lad’s simple Ayurvedic remedy, which can be taken daily is to boil 1 tsp licorice root for a few minutes, then stir in 1/2 tsp ghee (clarified butter), and take a sip every 5-10 min. It does help.

    Also, my own experience with asthma is that when I have relieved the underlying allergies, especially hay fever, by cleansing (gut and liver), I have had almost no asthma. This worked for several years until it’s clear I need to do the cleansing again. This points to an underlying cause (in my case) that when relieved, disappears the asthma along with it.

  36. Hi Cody-
    In one of your responses you had said you were taking 600 mg of Lingzhi mushroom plus 450 mg of Gancao plus 1100 mg of Wild Oregano plus 500 mg of Olive Leaf extract twice a day every day. My question is what are the mg in the Phytocort it doesn’t say on the bottle so a person can adjust to the mg’s you have stated if necessary. Also the Wild Oregano that you gave the site to is only 140 mg on the bottle and the Olive Leaf on the bottle is only 250 mg so that would mean you take 2 capsules of the olive leaf but on the Wild oregano you take 7-8 wild oregano? and how did you experiment?…..take one capsule more every week or something until you found relief? Also why are you not taking the Phytocort anymore and are trying something different. Is there a point where Phytocort gets built up in a persons system and doesn’t work anymore? My husband is on Advair and Albuteral and over the years has had bad side effects and would like to get off the steroids also and we are thinking about trying this. Thanks

  37. Hi!
    Why do you take the Oregano and Olive leaf? how did you come up with it? and what does it do?

  38. […] I’ve written an article about an herbal asthma treatment called “ASHMI Clear Breathing With Chinese Herbs” which describes how Dr. Xiu-Min Li of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York […]

  39. […] I’ve written an article about an herbal asthma treatment called “ASHMI Clear Breathing With Chinese Herbs” which describes how Dr. Xiu-Min Li of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York […]

  40. I am so glad that I just found your website. I haven’t read more than a couple of articles but am prompted to write because I really appreciate your responsiveness to questions and comments that people have sent in.
    I have struggled with lung issues since coming down with Valley Fever in 1977. I had 2 surgeries to remove 1/2 my right lung and thought all would be well, but a chain reaction of lung illnesses and chronic fungal infections ensued that have kept me enslaved to massive quantities of cortico steroids, antibiotics and anti-fungal drugs ever since. I have worn out several nebulizers. I had extreme reactions to prednisone etc. (paranoia, hallucinations, etc) and eventually developed intolerance to most of the other drugs.
    In order to reduce triggers, I have had to avoid most social interactions the last three or so years. Sleep has been elusive, only coming in 2 and 3 hour increments. My need for isolation was triggering depression and I realized I was caught in a downward spiral.
    A friend suggested I might benefit from acupuncture. I gave it a shot and noticed that it quickly helped lessen the severity of attacks and improved sleep. It immediately became the best part of my day, with the benefits lasting longer after each session.
    Last week my acupuncturist suggested that Ling Zhi Lung formulation might provide more relief. I have been taking it for a week and am already noticing profound improvements in breathing and sleep. I am now a firm believer in ASHMI and I look forward to devouring your articles and the comment sections.
    Thank you so much!

  41. Hey Cody!

    Just wanted to talk to you about that 14 ingredient TCM formula you listed somewhere on your website. (The one that had clinical testing and showed amazing results for stopping asthma but then was shut down.)

    I called a local TCM doctor / herbologist to make me the formula.. he wanted to do a $90 consultation fee which included some acupuncture etc. I told him I just wanted to use the herbs for now. He told me to call a local Chinese herb shop and they were able to make it for me!! The cost is $5 / day which is a lot more then ASHMI but it has an extra 10 ingredients.

    I have to boil the herbs and drink the liquid. It tastes worse then words can even explain LOL. I just hope it works!

    Anyway, just wanted to give you all the info.. if you want to try that 14 ingredient version just find a Chinese herb shop (there’s one downtown Chinatown every city) and they will make it for you.

    Feel free to send me an email if you want more info or a follow up in a couple weeks!

    All the best

  42. Hello,
    Can you please advise me whether you should take ASHMI / phytocort at the same time as prednisone or only when off the prednisone completely, don’t want to be doing the wrong thing and don’t know who to ask as no doctors know about it.
    Many thanks

  43. Hi,

    Is the Phyocort good without the Sophora Root?

    How many pills do you take daily? This will also help adrenals?


  44. Hi Cody. Just out of curiousity, are you and your wife still on the supplements above, or has that changed? (from your May 16th, 2013 post). I haven’t tried any of these yet. I’m starting with pure Reishi mushroom supplements that I ordered from another site, before possibly mixing it with other things gradually over time.

    I was just curious as to how she is currently doing and what combo seems to have worked best for her this year.

  45. […] I’ve written an article about an herbal asthma treatment called “ASHMI Clear Breathing With Chinese Herbs” which describes how Dr. Xiu-Min Li of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York […]

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