ASHMI Clear Breathing with Chinese Herbs

ASHMI Chinese Herbal Asthma Treatment
Chinese Herbs and Herbal Remedies Can Be Effective in Treating Asthma Symptoms
If you suffer from asthma, you may want to swap your prescription medications for some powerful and effective Chinese herbs. Specifically, ASHMI asthma treatment. ASHMI stands for Anti-Asthma Herbal Medicine Intervention.

ASHMI is a combination of three Chinese herbal extracts: Lingzhi Mushroom (aka Reishi Mushroom), Kushen (aka Sophora Root), and Licorice Root (aka Gancao). ASHMI does not include Ma Huang, which is used globally as an asthma herbal remedy.

The original formulation of ASHMI was developed by Dr. Xiu-Min Li of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, in collaboration with Dr. Hugh Sampson, also from the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, as a simplified version of a traditional Chinese herbal combination of 14 herbs known as MSSM-002. MSSM-002 was originally designed by Weifang Pharmaceutical Manufacturing.

My wife and I became interested in ASHMI after reading a study published in the Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology (vol. 116, issue 3) and from an article I found on Medscape.com titled: “AAAAI 2009: Chinese Herbal Preparations Show Efficacy Against Asthma, Atopy.”

The published study chronicles the results of an experiment conducted by researchers from Weifang Asthma Hospital and Weifang School of Medicine in China, along with the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York. The researchers reported that an oral combination of three Chinese herbs could be as effective as conventional asthma medicines — without the serious side effects!

The researchers were looking for an asthma treatment equally as effective as Corticosteroids, a common and conventional asthma treatment, minus the adverse side effects experienced by Corticosteroid users. Specifically, Corticosteroids have been shown to increase susceptibility to infection and slow growth rates in children.

91 patients with moderate to severe persistent asthma were admitted to the Weifang Asthma Hospital for a four week double-blind study. 45 of the asthma patients received 20mg of prednisone per day and placebo capsules resembling ASHMI. 46 of the asthma patients were given ASHMI along with placebo tablets resembling 20mg of prednisone.

ASHMI had a beneficial effect on both TH1 and TH2 cytokine levels and absolutely no adverse effects on adrenal function in the study participants

The results were very positive. ASHMI had a beneficial effect on both TH1 and TH2 cytokine levels and absolutely no adverse effects on adrenal function in the study participants. Additionally, the ASHMI group experienced significantly less gastric discomfort and no weight gain.

The effect of prednisone on lung function was reported by the researchers to be “slightly, but significantly greater” than that of ASHMI. But, the prednisone group experienced both significant weight-gain and gastric discomfort.

The researchers were “pleased” with the trial results and concluded that their findings “…show that ASHMI is effective and well-tolerated in nonsteroid-dependent patients with moderate to severe persistent asthma.”

As a result of the study findings, the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM) announced the funding of three “Centers of Excellence” which will explore therapies used in traditional Chinese medicine, including acupuncture and Chinese herbal mixtures.

One of the selected centers will be called the “Center for Chinese Herbal Therapy” located at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine, New York, NY and led by Xiu-Min Li, M.D. The researchers are responsible for investigating ASHMI as a therapy for allergic asthma. Studies of ASHMI will look at mechanisms of action in an animal model, characterize the herbs’ active components and investigate the formula’s use in human asthma patients.

[UPDATE]:

As a result of my research and specifically because of the study I mentioned above, I decided to try and buy ASHMI. The problem was, I couldn’t find it!

I got frustrated pretty early on in my quest, so I went to my neighborhood “Vitamin Shoppe” (brick n mortar store), bought Lingzhi Mushroom and Licorice Root supplements and made my own “homemade” ASHMI. (Unfortunately, I have yet to find sophora root in supplement form, although I did find that I could buy it in bulk).

Anyway, my family and I began to take our homemade ASHMI supplements (along with Olive leaf extract and wild oregano) and have never looked back. We have had some pretty remarkable results and are very happy and thankful for Dr. Li and her continued research!

[UPDATE]:

I finally found it!

Based on the original ASHMI study, the “Allergy Research Group,” which markets products under the name “Nutricology,” sell an asthma treatment supplement called phytocort. Phytocort’s a proprietary blend of the Chinese herbs lingzhi mushroom, sophora root, and licorice root, found in Dr. Xiu-Min Li’s original ASHMI formulation described above, plus a fourth herb commonly known as noni (Morinda citrifolia), which wasn’t part of the original formulation. (Note: I’m pretty sure noni was added as an attempt to get around any patent disputes)

My wife and I have replaced our original homemade ASHMI with phytocort supplements! (Better late than never, I guess!) :-)

Where to buy ASHMI (phytocort):

[UPDATE 10/23/10]: Below is a recent email exchange between Heather (my wife) and one of our readers. I thought you might be interested in reading it:

Hi – I read your article re ASHMI for asthma. Do you have asthma? How long did you try the Allergy Research Group Version? What we’re the changes (If any) you experienced? Would you use again? Why? Why not?

I am mother of 5 year old with multiple food allergies and asthma. Always seeking ways to healing.

Thanks

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Hi xxxxxxxxxxx,

My name is Heather. I’m Cody’s wife. I’m sorry it’s taken so long to get back to you, but I work in retail and have a very “uneven” schedule. Cody asked me to respond to your email personally, after he read it.

I suffer from severe asthma. At the end of 2004, I spent 4 days in the hospital because of a very severe asthma attack. The doctors tried everything for me: oxygen, nebulizer treatments, everything. They slowly raised my “blood oxygen level” over the course of those four days, but I never reached above the “60’s.”

I was very thankful to have made it out of the hospital alive and breathing, but I (& Cody even more) was also determined to do some research to see if I could find something natural that could help me breathe better and keep me out of the hospital better than the medication I was taking.

At the time I had my severe attack, I was taking advair everyday. I also used my albuterol inhaler once or twice a day, everyday and was administering nebulizer treatments to myself several times a month.

Then everything really changed! Cody discovered ASHMI, but hadn’t yet discovered phytocort. He put together a “homemade” ASHMI with supplements he bought from vitamin stores. That’s when I started taking lingzhi mushroom extract, licorice root extract, olive leaf extract and wild oregano supplements.

Since I began the supplementation about 3 years ago, I have received very dramatic benefits and no side effects (as far as my doctor and I can tell). I have not had to take any Advair. I have only used my albuterol inhaler two or three times a year over the past three years (during the fall of each year). I can’t remember the last time I’ve had to administer a nebulizer treatment, but it’s definitely been over 2 years.

I still carry my albuterol with me everywhere I go, because I’m scared to death of not having it, if I ever needed it.

I take two capsules of Phytocort and one each of the olive leaf extract and wild oregano supplements, twice a day.

I’ve been taking the phytocort for almost a year. Before phytocort, I was taking my homemade ASHMI for about two years. I like taking the phytocort because the ingredients are already packaged into one supplement and it’s cheaper to buy one bottle of phytocort than putting ASHMI together myself. I honestly have not noticed a difference in my breathing between my homemade ASHMI and the phytocort supplements.

I tell everyone that asks me to NOT expect the same results I’ve experienced. I’ve learned that individuals experience different results and side effects from taking the same supplements and medications. So, please DO NOT expect the same results that I have experienced.

I hope that my email has answered some of your questions (I’ve tried my best). I also hope that you continue to research progressive asthma treatments and that you find one or more that may work for your child.

Thanks for visiting our site and all my best.

~ Heather

Where to buy ASHMI (phytocort):

Comments

    • says

      @ j

      ASHMI can’t be purchased yet – it’s still under patent review (Please see my November 29, 2009 comment below for an important update). But, my wife and I take “homemade” ASHMI using supplements we buy at vitamin stores. That is, we buy Lingzhi Mushroom and Licorice Root, which are readily available in supplement form and take them twice a day.

      I can tell you that our breathing is much better for it and our household asthma medication use has plummeted! (That has been strictly our experience and I am certainly not dispensing any medical advice here!)

      I hope that helps and thanks for stopping by. :-)

    • says

      UPDATE

      @J ==> Yes, ASHMI can be purchased, although the formulation is not called ASHMI. I found a product called phytocort, manufactured by a company called Allergy Research Group and marketed under the name Nutricology.

      Phytocort is formulated with the original herbs found in ASHMI which are lingzhi mushroom, licorice root (gancao) and sophora root (kushen), plus a fourth ingredient called noni.

      My wife and I have stopped taking our “home made” ASHMI and have begun taking phytocort. We have been purchasing it from amazon.com because of the price, but we have also purchased it from drugstore.com and ebay.com, as well.

      • says

        I purchased Phytocort and took it for 2 days with good results, then this morning after I took it I read in the small print that it contains lead. LEAD! Why is there lead in there? I don’t want to get lead poisoning. For that matter, why is there shellfish in there? It’s not one of the main ingredients, but it’s listed as containing shellfish, which I’m supposed to be allergic to. Can we get the same herbs i a safer blend, without these additives?

        • says

          Hi Deanna,

          Thanks for dropping by & sharing your concerns. Believe me, I understand. My wife is very sensitive to different ingredients & we are always on the lookout for the ones that she has issues with.

          Before I found the Phytocort product (which is the closest substitute to the original ASHMI I was able to find), I (& my wife) used a “homemade” modified ASHMI by buying individual supplements & taking them together.

          I have never been able to verify how much of the “Ku Shen” (sophora root) was used in the original ASHMI formulation (ie. what percentage of ASHMI was made up of Ku Shen), nor was I able to find any pre-packaged supplements (only in bulk powder or chopped root form), so we didn’t take any sophora root.

          After a bit of trial & error (adding & then subtracting oregano), we settled on the following for an extended period: Lingzhi Mushroom Supplements (aka Reishi Mushrooms) + Licorice Root Supplements (aka Gancao) + Olive Leaf Supplements (our addition).

          Also, please have a look at my Article on Mullein. You may decide to give that a try instead.

          I hope I’ve been of some help & thanks again for stopping by.

          ~Cody

    • says

      @Sam

      I take 600mg of Lingzhi Mushroom (Reishi Mushroom) and 450mg of Licorice Root, plus a few other herbs twice per day. My wife takes the Lingzhi Mushroom – Licorice Root combination, plus some additional herbs, at least twice per day.

      Thanks for stopping by. :-)

  1. Codyfan says

    Thanks Cody! Great article, exactly what I’d been looking for. I’m going to look into using phytocort as you suggest. I have some family members which suffer from breathing problems. Can I pm you with questions, or should I stick to comments?

  2. noah says

    hello cody!
    does “phytocort” really have similar effects to cortisone? is it not too expensive longterm taken in the doses recommended?

    has anyone else other than Cody experience with it?
    i am contemplating getting it too, but would really like to hear more before!

    i would be happy for any kind of feedback!

    all the best, noah:)

    • says

      Hi Noah,

      The only results I feel comfortable relaying to you are my family’s, I’m afraid you’ll need to ask a doctor (or certainly someone other than myself) to discuss cortisone vs. anything. My wife and I have experienced considerable breathing benefits from phytocort, and before that, a combination of lingzhi mushroom and licorice root supplements.

      Both of us take the recommended dosage of two supplements of phytocort twice a day, plus olive leaf extract and wild oregano extract.

      Before the herbal supplementation, my wife, who suffered from severe asthma issues was taking Advair once a day, using her albuterol inhaler once or twice a day and giving herself nebulizer treatments two or three times a month.

      Since she began the new supplement regimen, no more advair, no more nebulizer treatments and only two or three uses of her albuterol inhaler per year (during the fall) over the past three years!

      As far as monetary costs are concerned, I order four 120 count containers of phytocort every two months from amazon.com, for the both of us. The price is approximately $19 and some change $21.78 per 120 count container plus a total of $5.95 shipping, which comes out to be approximately $86 (I rounded up) $93. That’s roughly $21.50 $23.27 per month for each of us or $0.72 $0.78 (72 cents 78 cents) per day. Much, much lower than the out of pocket cost of advair, albuterol and nebulizer packets.

      As far as emotional and physical costs are concerned, we would willingly pay much more to avoid getting the jitters and other side effects of constant albuterol and advair use!

      Noah, please don’t misinterpret what I have written. I am certainly not trying to convince you of anything, and am certainly not suggesting you replace your medication with anything. I’m merely describing our recent experience with phytocort. I highly recommend you make an informed decision and DO NOT stop taking any of your prescribed medication.

      In fact, my wife carries her albuterol inhaler everywhere she goes and plans on continuing to doing so.

      I wrote this article because lingzhi mushrooms, licorice root and sophora root (along with olive leaf extract and oregano oil) are working for us and have helped us gain significant independence from powerful and expensive prescribed medications. They may not work for you, although I certainly hope they do.

      Thank you for stopping by and for your frank questions.

      :-) Cody

  3. Noah says

    Dear Cody,
    thank you so much for your so thorough answer!!! i appreciate this extremely! wow! thank you!
    yes, for being healthy one is ready to spend huge amounts, i agree, i only asked cause i am already spending over 300 euros on my health monthly and i just wanted to check it out more before trying it out. thank you heaps for your advice!
    don’t worry, i wont stop taking anything else i am already taking! i am not planning to stop anything, will just try it as an additional fix!
    thank you for taking the time! in answering me so honestly! this is extremely kind of you!!!!! i am really stunned for the effort you took!
    all the very best!!!!
    noah :)

    • says

      No worries! My pleasure. :-)

      If you decide to give phytocort a try, please do come back to let us know how it went. I would love to hear about your experience with it.

      Thanks again.

      Cody

  4. Margot says

    I have tried Phytocort, taking 2 capsules made me very hyper for a long time, good thing I didn’t take 3, I tried 1 capsule which was a little better, will 1 cap twice a day have enough effect on COPD ?
    I am very sensitive to a lot of things and only weigh 98 lbs.

    Thank you in advance for your reply
    Margot

    • says

      Margot,

      If phytocort makes you hyper, it sounds to me like you should immediately stop taking it at any dosage amount. I subscribe to the “better safe than sorry” school.

      I’m not a doctor or a health practitioner, either of which could answer your question better than I can. If you have a licensed health practitioner to talk with, I would pose them the same question. I suspect they would tell you to stop taking the Phytocort as well. No sense in creating new problems for yourself.

      Sorry I can’t be of any further help. Good luck and I’m sorry Phytocort isn’t working out.

    • says

      @ Jan >> Thanks for dropping by and for your sobering comment. Can you point us to some articles of the research and studies upon which you base your statement. I’m sure we’d all find it a valuable read.

      :) Cody

  5. says

    Jan, I understand the concern, I remember reading about some of the problems you mention. I was very glad to hear that the problems actually got somewhat fixed;

  6. S G Berm says

    Asthma Herb that Actually Helped!

    I suffer from severe asthma. Have been searching and searching for a natural replacement/alternative to the asthma medication serevent. I have been desperately wanting to lower my dependency to this very strong asthma medication. I believe I have finally found it. Phytocort is great. It took several bottles to get into my system enough that I’ve taken serevent only once a day!!!!!! I hope to be off of serevent completely in about 14 to 21 days.

    Thanks Cody, for writing about it!!!!!!!!!!

    Sandy Berman

    • says

      @ Sandy: Thanks for dropping by!! I’m very happy to hear about your success with the Phytocort. :)

      Please come back when you get a minute, to let us know how you’re doing.

      Thanks again & good luck!!!

      ~Cody

    • says

      @ Kaitlin: You’re more than welcome. I hope you find something useful here!! :)

      Yes, I do perform my own research. There is so much info available these days. Obviously, cutting through the noise can be tiresome, but there are some very good folks out there who are sharing their knowledge with the rest of us.

      Thanks for stopping by & please come back and visit occasionally.

      ~Cody

  7. Lisa says

    Hello,

    My 19 month old son was diagnosed “idopathic hypoxemia” about 7 months ago (which is just a fancy way of saying he has low blood oxygen levels and they do not know why). We have done everything short of a lung biopsy (which our dr advised waiting on it since it would be a “blind test” since there are no abnormalities or specific areas to actually pin point to extract for testing). He runs about 92-100 during the day and 87-95 when asleep. We have oxygen to administer. There are times where he is PERFECTLY OK (and sleeps with out oxygen, etc) and there are times where he is not. He is only “slightly” allergic to dairy and cat hair.

    He responds very well to steroids; however, he is in the 15th % for height. He was slightly short before but has only grown 1″ in 7 months since starting the pulmicort steroid (inhaled). He likewise responds well to musinex. My doctor is not “opposed” to herbal treatments, but does NOT encourage or prescribe them. I found Phytocort after reading the Mt Sinai study online (and looked for a product that combined all the herbs together as well as investigated making my own). I found phytocort and gave 2 doses to my toddler (via dissolved in water and medicine dropper). It worked well!

    However, after 2 doses, I read that sophora flower is a neurotoxin to children and have not given him anymore. I cannot find ANYTHING showing the actual dosage studied to show toxicity levels for children. I read that blood types govern the toxic response to each herb (it was a general statement, not a specific approach to Sophora, etc).

    Ok, so my question is: does anyone give the product to their young children? If so, how much? I gave 1 pill in the morning and 1 pill in afternoon with good results. However, I am concerned about the neurotoxicity. I realize this is not a physician’s cite and am not looking for endorsement, but I am looking for experienced parents that have given this product to children, your outcome/experience and doses you use… Additionally, does anyone use the Mucolyxir (by same company) as alternative to musinex for children?

  8. karen shaw says

    can you tell me how long it should take to see some improvement from the phytocort?

    have taken 2 bottles and see no difference so far,

    • says

      Hi Karen >> Thanks for dropping by.

      I would guess two bottles is plenty. If you haven’t noticed any breathing benefits by now, it seems as though, unfortunately, Phytocort is probably not for you.

  9. Del says

    @Karen

    I noticed immediate improvement after the 2nd day of taking the 3 capsules twice a day. My husband’s breathing got easier after a couple of days also.

  10. natalie says

    Karen, try the homemade version Cody recommended & usedd himself. Tha t worked for me. I bought the lingzhi mushroom and licorice root supplements separately and took them at the same time twice a day. Works for me even today.

    Please keep trying, there’s a natural supplement out there that will help you. Just dont stop looking!

  11. says

    Cody,
    great blog!

    I’m an Acupuncturist and Chinese Herbalist in Texas. I would recommend to anyone who is seeking help for asthma to see an Acupuncturist/Herbalist. Even if a person has the same western diagnosis such as “Asthma”, we treat each patient differently based on their signs and symptoms. Meaning, we wouldn’t necessarily prescribe the same herbs to each person just because they have asthma. We break it down more than that and treat the person before us, not the disease! Some people may have more phlegm, or less phlegm, or more heat, or less, etc. Some may have a harder time inhaling than exhaling or vice versa. All these are clues to the practitioner and both the acupuncture treatment and the herbal prescription will most likely vary.
    Most acupuncturists have an herbal pharmacy with compounding abilities so that the formula for each patient is specifically geared to what’s going on to them! But it can’t hurt to bring in the information about ASHMI to your practitioner and discuss it with them!

    Cheers,
    ~Shelly

    • says

      Hi Shelly,

      Thanks for the kind words. My wife and I have friends that swear by their Acupuncturist for quite a bit more than asthma. It is a fascinating and effective healing practice that I wish more people would take advantage of.

      Thank you for dropping by as you have given me some inspiration to write an article about the use of acupuncture in the treatment and management of asthma. :-)

  12. karen shaw says

    just a word of caution, out of desparation I kept taking the phytocort 3 caps 3 times a day and gave myself a case of pancreatitis

    my asthma was a direct result of taking antibiotics so I think I need to find the particular gut biota which was destroyed

    I have been to 7 MD’s, tried acupuncture and homeopathy, several different probiotics, was told that the antibiotics might have caused a glutathione defficiency so have been taking NAS to no avail and am about at the end of my rope

    have you read about the guy who infected himself with hookworms – he claims it cured him

  13. karen shaw says

    just wanted to let you know I have finally found some relief by taking N-Acetyl L-Cysteine

    I believe it has to do with a glutathione defficiency

    [Link Below Edited by Cody]

    http:// www [dot] diagnose-me [dot] com/treat/T292370.html

  14. noah says

    Hello there!
    some time has passed but i have finally tried out Phytocort for my severe allergic asthma (plus rhinitis), but it has not helped me at all unfortunatley – at least not to a point where i would notice a benefit. i promised to come back and report after trying, so this is my experience. does not mean though that it can’t help others. just did not work for me,
    all the best
    noah

  15. noah says

    Hello there!
    some time has passed but i have finally tried out Phytocort for my severe allergic asthma (plus rhinitis), but it has not helped me at all unfortunatley – at least not to a point where i would notice a benefit. i promised to come back and report after trying, so this is my experience. does not mean though that it can’t help others. just did not work for me,

    what helps me (i also take the conventional asthma medicine like xolair, cortisone, montelukast etc) are the herbs “Radix Gentianae, Flos Primulae cum calycibus, Herba Rumicis acetosa, Flos Sambuci and Herba Verbenae”. They are contained in “Solvopret/Sinupret”, but i buy them separately as tea herbs in the pharmacy and put them into capsules. they work very well on the sinus and also in the lungs. this is my 5 cents.
    all the best
    noah

    • says

      Hi Noah,

      It’s been a while!!! Nice to hear back from you.

      I am terribly sorry to hear of your disappointing results. Seems like it’s been a mixed bag as far as peoples’ experiences. A majority of the commenters here have had positive results, but a few (like yourself) have not. I appreciate your willingness to discuss your results and hope you can find something soon.

      We (my wife and I) have been exploring some alternative (to phytocort) herbal remedies that have been beneficial in tackling our allergy (hay fever – sinus) symptoms, in addition to the asthma issues. I will be posting our results in an upcoming article.

      Again, thanks for dropping by. :)

  16. Brad says

    I am on medrol – 4mg, methotrexate – 20 mg, and also advair and flovent. I am believed to be either hypereosinophillic or churg-strauss. My question is would Ashmi benefit me by lowering my eosinophil count and would it be safe with the above medications mentioned?

    • says

      Hi Brad,

      Unfortunately, I am not a trained medical practitioner. You would be better served by asking your doctor/medical practitioner that same question.

      It’s not that I don’t want to try and help, it’s just that I am not trained or licensed to do so.

      Best of luck and I hope you can find an answer.

      Thanks for dropping by. :)

  17. Brad says

    Okay Cody I will have to take a naturopath avenue for advice as my respiroligist ” suggested” i try ASHMI with hopes of bringing down my eosinphil count. He told me though, use it at my own risk and that basically he doesn’t know if it will work. So I guess I may have to talk to someone with a bit more experience with this herb. I am in desperate need of lowering my eosinphil count and reducing prednisone.

    • says

      Hi Brad,

      I hear you loud and clear. It can be a very frustrating and frightening process (at least it has been for my wife and I). We started with “homemade” ASHMI, then found ready made phytocort. We are now experimenting with a different herbal combination to deal with some sinus issues, in addition to the asthma symptoms!

      It’s been a “mixed bag” of results with general asthma sufferers’ phytocort usage, as comments above will attest to. The majority of the feedback I’ve gotten points to at least some relief of asthma symptoms with it’s (phytocort’s/ASHMI) usage, but several folks have commented above that results were negligible at best. We (my wife and I) had good results with phytocort in combination with olive leaf extract and wild oregano (along with 2 oz. of aloe juice at night before we go to bed), but we are constantly tweaking herbal combinations, as I’ve already mentioned.

      Good luck in your quest and please do stop by to tell us about how you’re progressing. Thanks again for stopping by. :)

  18. LindaM says

    I have been looking for nature replacements for predsidone, and ran across this site. I was all excited when I saw ASHMI…….however after researching the herbs I find most are mushrooms. That kinda freaked me out, because in Feb 2011 they found a 3.5 mass in my right lung that showed to be candida. So I radically changed my diet, no sugar, soy, rye, wheat, mushrooms. My question is since part of this formula is mushroom based, would it cause the candida to reappear? As I surely couldnt afford that!
    I supposedly have severe COPD,, and using inhalers, nebulizers and such, and when I get really bad and have bigger breathing problems I use presidone, so…..since you have has alot of experince with this product what would you recommend……Please I would love your help!!!
    LindaM

  19. Robert Macias says

    I’m trying to find an herbal combination that might help with sinus allergies. Is there any anecdotal evidence that ASHMI or Phytocort helps with sinus allergies? The one herbal product I’ve found that helps is Sinupret. It seems to be a pretty good decongestant, but it’s not an antihistamine, so it doesn’t address the itchy eyes and sneezing.

    I’m a little concerned about the additional ingredient in Phytocort: Noni. Here’s what Dr. Weil says about it: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA64352

    I may try your do-it-yourself approach to ASHMI. Did you ever find a good online source for all three ingredients (other than the Phytocort formula)?

    Thanks,

    Robert

    • says

      Hi Robert,

      Thanks for stopping by and thanks for the link to the Dr. Weil article –>> very good info!

      My wholehearted recommendations for the homemade ASHMI ingredients are amazon.com & drugstore.com.com. You will find everything you need on amazon.com, except for kushen/sophora root in supplement form. You will not find kushen/sophora root in any form on drugstore.com.

      I did find a place I could order the sophora root in supplement form very recently, I just can’t remember off the top of my head where it was! I will continue to search and post my findings here.

      As far as sinus allergy help, my wife has had great success with “Dr. Murray’s Lung, Bronchial & Sinus Health” for her allergies. We have successfully ordered it from both amazon & drugstore.com.

      Unfortunately, I have not seen, read, nor heard of any evidence that phytocort has any effect (beneficial or otherwise) on allergies of any kind. Sorry I can’t be of any more help on that question!

      Thanks again for stopping by and let us know how things work out, good or not so good. The info may help others.

  20. noah says

    hi Cody
    thank you very much :)
    i forgot to say, also butterbur helps me heaps with my allergic rhinits as well with my severe allergic asthma. it is strongly anti-allergic and anti-inflammatory. one needs to buy a standardized extract of butterbur that is free of pyrrolizidins, but it helps as well as an antihistamine without the sedating effect.
    looking forward to your upcoming article!!!
    all the best
    and thank you!!
    noah :)

  21. Alan says

    What is your appraisal as to how closely Phytocort matches that which was tested by Dr. Li at Mt. Sinai medical center?

    • says

      Hi Alan,

      Thanks for dropping by.

      There is one big difference. Noni is not part of Dr. Xiu-Min Li’s original formulation. What effect that has, I have no idea?

      Otherwise, I believe the percentage of the rest of the ingredients are based on the original formulation. The other factor that comes into play is the purity of the ingredients and I would guess, the freshness of the ingredients. I have no idea how one would go about measuring such things, but I would guess they are important, nonetheless.

      But, again, Phytocort is the closest match which I could find to the original.

      Hope this helps??

  22. Vojtech says

    Hi, do you have some info concerning ongoing clinical studies of ASHMI? When we can expect the publication of results? Do you know, whether ASHMI/Phytocort is safe for children?

    • says

      Hi Vojtech,

      Thanks for dropping by.

      A great place to start is the search page of the Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology. Use ASHMI as your keyword and then hit the search button. You will have 3 full pages of search results to sift through, including clinical studies and published results.

      As far as if the formulation is safe for children >>> see comments by Lisa on 1-3-2011 and my subsequent comments on 1-9-2011. I’m not a doctor or medical practitioner of any kind, so I think you’d be better off asking a medical/herbal professional that very same question (or at the very least, do some research on your own). Better safe than sorry when it comes to one’s kids!!!

      Thanks again for dropping by. :)

  23. Anonymous says

    I got asthma symptoms for the 1st time in my life along with my usualy springtime allergies, 2 years ago. I saw a allergy/pulmonologist MD (one of the best in my area of SLC, UT) and he told me this was the beginning of a long road where I’ll need stronger and stronger inhalers and other meds for asthma. That was unacceptable to me.
    I ended up using Ashmi that allergy season along with an emergency inhaler as needed.
    That season was the last time I needed the inhaler. I have been able to use ashmi now, just as any symptoms arise.
    Also, no side effects were noted with the ashmi. Additionally, my seasonal allergy symptoms are about 10% of what they used to be, but I’m not sure that’s due to the ashmi.
    The stuff does taste terrrible though. Small price to pay…

    • says

      @Anonymous: Thanks for dropping by and sharing your very positive results! Ashmi was certainly a life changer for my wife and I and I’m very glad to hear it has helped you as well. In my book, any herbs or herbal combinations that help decrease our dependency on pharmaceuticals are essential.

      I agree with you that the ashmi is probably not helping all that much with your allergy symptoms. We use a product called “Lung, Bronchial & Sinus Health” by a company called “Natural Factors,” along with “Phytocort,” during the height of our allergy season >> with excellent results.

      Thanks again and continued good health. :)

  24. Mark says

    Hi, I’m in the UK so had to order PhytoCort from Amazon and get it shipped over to the UK. It recommends taking 3 capsules three times daily and then reducing to 2 capsules twice daily. After taking my first 3 capsules about an hour ago I now have crazy black and white zigzag lights in the middle of my eyes! Has anyone else experienced this?

    • says

      Hi Mark,

      I certainly hope not!!! That sounds terrible! I would certainly lay off taking any more unless you were sure phytocort wasn’t the cause.

      Thanks for letting everyone know about it and please stop by to bring us up to date.

      Thanks and good luck.

  25. kells says

    Hi,

    I suffer from swollen eyelids. In a nutshell, when I was put on Prednisone the swelling decreased dramatically but returned when I went off. And, of course, I did not want to stay on that for too long since it made me gain so much weight in less than half a year.

    I know that you said this worked for your wife and her breathing but did it do anything for swelling by chance? Like, did it coincide with the results she had with Prednisone [if she took Prednisone…]

    I’m just looking for an alternative to Prednisone is all. And, I know you aren’t a doctor and whatnot. I’m just fishing for information. Thanks.

    • says

      Hi Kells,

      Thanks for dropping by. You’re exactly right, I’m not a doctor, so I’m definitely not the one to ask these questions to.

      Unfortunately, we have no personal experience whatsoever with Prednisone. Sorry.

      Also, unfortunately, I have no idea about decreases in swelling or anything like that from the use of ASHMI or phytocort. Sorry again.

      Good luck on your research and I hope you’re successful.

  26. Janet says

    Thanks for your fast response. How much of the phytocort, olive leaf and oregano do you take each day? I do take Olive leaf and have taken the Oregano oil as well, but not together, Both are excellent. My mother uses olive leaf for everything! I will keep u ;posted. thanks for sharing.

  27. Janet says

    Thanks so much. How long did you take the above before you noticed they worked? Did you or anyone in your family have to sometimes use a nebulizer?

    I was making my own olive leaf extract and it is excellent but then I was tested and was told that I was allergic to it, even though I have taken it for years with no side effects and olives, olive oil forever. So I think those tests are not accurate. I am taking the Olive leaf now with the Oreganol and also the Phytocort. But I am waiting for the Olive leaf that you recommended as the one I have on hand is not very strong.

    I really hope this works. I never had asthma until 2007. I believe it was caused by wearing myself down as I rehabilitated wildlife for years and then I lived in an forested area where there was black mold,it was constant cleaning , but I was always getting colds and thats when I started to get pneumonia too and when I believe the asthma took over because of my vulnerability to colds and the mold. I live in a drier area now.

    Thanks for your great info!

    • says

      Hi Janet,

      Both my wife and I felt fairly immediate results. Judging from the comments here, and some of my other articles, it seems as though people either feel an immediate benefit, or none at all, with the Phytocort.

      [Update: I have received feedback from folks that have said it took several bottles before they received any significant relief. So…..it seems there is no “straight” answer to this question!! Sorry.]

      Yes. My wife has needed to use a nebulizer on occasion, always during the fall. Fall is always her worst time of the year. I just asked her about last fall (2011) and she’s fairly certain she DID NOT require a nebulizer treatment. Otherwise, although we keep it ready for use, we need to use it only sparingly, if at all.

      Based on some recent conversations and some preliminary personal research and experimentation, my wife and I are going to try a new combination of supplements. We’re not sure how it’s going to go and we were going to hold off on disussing it publicly, but this seems like a good time.

      Starting this coming week, we will be taking the following supplements:

      Olive Leaf = 1 capsule am & 1 capsule pm (before bed)

      Clearlungs Chinese Herbal Formula (Red Label) (by Ridgecrest Herbals) = 2 capsules am & 2 capsules pm (before bed)

      Lung, Bronchial & Sinus Health (Dr. Michael Murray Formulated) (by Natural Factors) = 1 pill am & 1 pill pm (before bed)

      We recently moved and now have a pine forest as our back yard. We are trying to deal with some allergy issues which the new supplementation regimen is designed to help us with. Also, we will be using an air filtration system for the first time.

      We will be purchasing and using a: BlueAir 603 HepaSilent Air-Purification System

      We will not be taking the Phytocort or the Oreganol.

      We’re not sure how it’s going to go, but we will be giving it a solid three months of testing and I will post our results in an upcoming article.

      I hope all goes well with your supplementation and please do keep us updated! I will certainly do the same.

      Thanks again for dropping by. :-)

  28. says

    Hi Cody,
    I am just starting a bottle of Phytocort. Do you take the capsules with food or without. What is more effective. I found no information on this and several calls I made to sellers were answered with, ask a Doctor. If you are privy to this information I would be very thankful for an answer.

    • says

      Hi Paul,

      Thanks for dropping by! Unfortunately, I have no idea what the manufacturer’s recommendation is, nor do I know which is technically more effective.

      I’m not a doctor nor a medical practitioner, but our (my wife & I) personal experience has been that we generally take it on empty stomachs, but have occasionally taken them with food. We prefer taking the Phytocort on empty stomachs.

      I hope that helps and please drop us a note to let us know how things work out. :-)

  29. Moll says

    Thank you for an interesting article with lots of followup comments.

    Vasant Lad’s simple Ayurvedic remedy, which can be taken daily is to boil 1 tsp licorice root for a few minutes, then stir in 1/2 tsp ghee (clarified butter), and take a sip every 5-10 min. It does help.

    Also, my own experience with asthma is that when I have relieved the underlying allergies, especially hay fever, by cleansing (gut and liver), I have had almost no asthma. This worked for several years until it’s clear I need to do the cleansing again. This points to an underlying cause (in my case) that when relieved, disappears the asthma along with it.

    • says

      Thanks for dropping by Moll.

      I am always very glad to have readers share their experiences with others as I have found that oftentimes this is the very way that folks that have tried “everything” actually end up discovering relief!

      Continued good health!!

      ~ Cody Wells :-)

  30. Laura Ruhbeck says

    Hi Cody-
    In one of your responses you had said you were taking 600 mg of Lingzhi mushroom plus 450 mg of Gancao plus 1100 mg of Wild Oregano plus 500 mg of Olive Leaf extract twice a day every day. My question is what are the mg in the Phytocort it doesn’t say on the bottle so a person can adjust to the mg’s you have stated if necessary. Also the Wild Oregano that you gave the site to is only 140 mg on the bottle and the Olive Leaf on the bottle is only 250 mg so that would mean you take 2 capsules of the olive leaf but on the Wild oregano you take 7-8 wild oregano? and how did you experiment?…..take one capsule more every week or something until you found relief? Also why are you not taking the Phytocort anymore and are trying something different. Is there a point where Phytocort gets built up in a persons system and doesn’t work anymore? My husband is on Advair and Albuteral and over the years has had bad side effects and would like to get off the steroids also and we are thinking about trying this. Thanks

    • says

      Hi Laura,

      Thanks for stopping by & for your questions. I’ll do my best to answer them, but please keep in mind that I am not a doctor or medical practitioner of any kind, ok? Also, please be sure and ask your doctor about any supplements your husband may take or any planned changes in your husband’s asthma treatments. On to the questions……..

      Question #1: “My question is what are the mg in the Phytocort …..?”

      I don’t know (unfortunately, since it’s a proprietary blend, I have no idea how to find out!).

      Question #2: “Also the Wild Oregano that you gave the site to is only 140 mg on the bottle and the Olive Leaf on the bottle is only 250 mg so that would mean you take 2 capsules of the olive leaf but on the Wild oregano you take 7-8 wild oregano?”

      Yes on the Olive Leaf (2 capsules). No on the Oregano. The Oregano supplement we were taking at the time I made the comment (found under my Lingzhi Mushroom article) is called “Wild Oregano Complex” (sold by The Vitamin Shoppe) and can be found here. We switched over to the “Oreganol” at some point (not sure when). We no longer take any oregano supplements though. The reason I keep the text of my wife’s email up there is to give everyone a snapshot of the process that we went through.

      Question #3: “how did you experiment?…..take one capsule more every week or something until you found relief?”

      We started with our homemade ASHMI, then went to the phytocort and are currently on the “Lung, Bronchial and Sinus Health Tablet” + “ClearLungs” + “Olive Leaf” combo. We have been experimenting for the past four years+ and we have tried to follow the recommended dosages. We tweaked things after researching additional supplements/treatments through forums, reviews/comments on diverse sites and reading academic/scientific study results.

      Question #4: “Also, why are you not taking the Phytocort anymore and are trying something different?”

      We switched because my wife seemed to be experiencing diminished results over time with the phytocort. As a result, I had read about the “Natural Factor’s Lung, Bronchial and Sinus Health Tablet” and “Ridgecrest Clearlungs” through my research so we decided to give them a try. We have been using that combo (plus the olive leaf) for almost a year now. We are both happy with the results so far.

      I hope my answers (& our experiences) will be of some help to you & your husband. Again, please be very careful with any supplements and be sure to consult with your doctor. Take your time and do as much research as you can. Different things work (or don’t work) for different people, so try not to get frustrated or desperate. Take your time and be careful. As bad as the side effects are for your husband, his medications have kept him alive.

      Thanks again for dropping by and I hope all goes well for your husband!! Good luck!!

      ~Cody

  31. Ida Kramer says

    Hi!
    Why do you take the Oregano and Olive leaf? how did you come up with it? and what does it do?
    Ida

  32. Jim Longacre says

    I am so glad that I just found your website. I haven’t read more than a couple of articles but am prompted to write because I really appreciate your responsiveness to questions and comments that people have sent in.
    I have struggled with lung issues since coming down with Valley Fever in 1977. I had 2 surgeries to remove 1/2 my right lung and thought all would be well, but a chain reaction of lung illnesses and chronic fungal infections ensued that have kept me enslaved to massive quantities of cortico steroids, antibiotics and anti-fungal drugs ever since. I have worn out several nebulizers. I had extreme reactions to prednisone etc. (paranoia, hallucinations, etc) and eventually developed intolerance to most of the other drugs.
    In order to reduce triggers, I have had to avoid most social interactions the last three or so years. Sleep has been elusive, only coming in 2 and 3 hour increments. My need for isolation was triggering depression and I realized I was caught in a downward spiral.
    A friend suggested I might benefit from acupuncture. I gave it a shot and noticed that it quickly helped lessen the severity of attacks and improved sleep. It immediately became the best part of my day, with the benefits lasting longer after each session.
    Last week my acupuncturist suggested that Ling Zhi Lung formulation might provide more relief. I have been taking it for a week and am already noticing profound improvements in breathing and sleep. I am now a firm believer in ASHMI and I look forward to devouring your articles and the comment sections.
    Thank you so much!

    • says

      Hi Jim,

      What a nightmare! Thank you so much for sharing your story with us. I’m very happy that you’ve managed to find some relief.

      Thank you for your kind words (not sure I deserve them!). I wish that I could do much more because (on a very personal level) I know how awful breathing issues are for the folks going through them & how frustrating a search for (even minor) relief can be. I hope you can find some helpful info on here.

      Thanks again for stopping by & good luck.

      ~Cody

  33. Anon ~~ says

    Hey Cody!

    Just wanted to talk to you about that 14 ingredient TCM formula you listed somewhere on your website. (The one that had clinical testing and showed amazing results for stopping asthma but then was shut down.)

    I called a local TCM doctor / herbologist to make me the formula.. he wanted to do a $90 consultation fee which included some acupuncture etc. I told him I just wanted to use the herbs for now. He told me to call a local Chinese herb shop and they were able to make it for me!! The cost is $5 / day which is a lot more then ASHMI but it has an extra 10 ingredients.

    I have to boil the herbs and drink the liquid. It tastes worse then words can even explain LOL. I just hope it works!

    Anyway, just wanted to give you all the info.. if you want to try that 14 ingredient version just find a Chinese herb shop (there’s one downtown Chinatown every city) and they will make it for you.

    Feel free to send me an email if you want more info or a follow up in a couple weeks!

    All the best

    • says

      That sounds great!! I hope it does the trick!! :) Not cheap, but if it works, it’s worth every penny.

      The formulation is called MSSM-002. I’ve listed the ingredients in the short article you mention.

      I’m glad you told us how to go about getting it! I’ve never met anyone who’s taken it or even knew how to go about getting it.

      Please follow-up with us & let us know how it works out for you.

      Thanks for dropping by!

      ~Cody

  34. Karen says

    Hello,
    Can you please advise me whether you should take ASHMI / phytocort at the same time as prednisone or only when off the prednisone completely, don’t want to be doing the wrong thing and don’t know who to ask as no doctors know about it.
    Many thanks
    Karen

    • says

      Hi Karen,

      Thanks for dropping by. Sorry you weren’t able to get any answers from your doctors! I’m also sorry that I’m not able to be of much help either!

      I’m not a doctor or medical professional and I have no idea about what the consequences of mixing the two might be??

      I would suggest asking that same question in “asthma forums” & reading through members’ answers. If you don’t frequent asthma forums, just google “asthma forums” & you’ll have a ready made list to choose from.

      Sorry I couldn’t be of much help & thanks again for dropping by!

      ~Cody

    • says

      Hi Jake,

      Thanks for dropping by & for your questions.

      Phytocort includes sophora root as one of it’s ingredients (see 1st update above).

      The suggested use (directly from the manufacturer) is: “Suggested use: As a dietary supplement, 3 capsules three times daily to start, and 2 capsules two times daily for maintenance, or as directed by a healthcare practitioner.”

      Unfortunately, I have no idea if phytocort would help your adrenals. You might try a google search or a forum search to see if anyone has any information or research on the subject. Since I’m not a doctor or a health care professional of any kind, I’m not qualified to answer that question anyway.

      Thanks again.

      ~Cody

  35. Mary says

    Hi Cody. Just out of curiousity, are you and your wife still on the supplements above, or has that changed? (from your May 16th, 2013 post). I haven’t tried any of these yet. I’m starting with pure Reishi mushroom supplements that I ordered from another site, before possibly mixing it with other things gradually over time.

    I was just curious as to how she is currently doing and what combo seems to have worked best for her this year.

  36. Elizabeth says

    Hi,

    Before coming to your site I was debating whether to use phytocort or clear lungs for asthma, so it was nice to see you started your regime with one and ended with the other.

    With that being said, I have two questions. One, are you still using clear lungs or did you switch back to phytocort? And two, I noticed the only constant between the two is licorice root. Is it safe to say based off your research that licorice root is the main ingredient that helps the lungs?

    Thanks!

    • says

      Hi Elizabeth,

      Thanks for dropping by!

      We no longer use phytocort. We have been using clearlungs + olive leaf + mullein leaf (+ Dr. Christophers sinus plus during allergy season).

      We will be dropping the clearlungs (at least temporarily) in order to experiment with something called Dr. Christopher’s lung & bronchial formula.

      As far as your second question, I know licorice root has been used effectively for breathing issues for a very long time. Unfortunately, I have no idea whether it’s the main ingredient in clearlungs or phytocort which is the key to helping folks breathe better, since both supplements are based on a combination of several ingredients.

      You could always just try an experiment on yourself and take only a licorice root supplement to see if it helps you breathe better on its own.

      Also, please don’t forget about mullein. Definitely do some research to see if it may be something you’re willing to try.

      Thanks again for dropping by & good luck in your search!

      ~Cody

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